Simply amazing. Larry / USA. https://www.kyarazen.com/enjoying-kyara-through-mon-koh/. Her signature scent is a combination of white musk, jasmine, and sandalwood. But historically, its accurate. Kyara. They dont stand a chance of ever producingKyara. Thats the motto. Not that its a conglomeration or collage, rather its an ordered universe of the finest molecules in balance, and it is shatteringly awesome to experience. Just gotten hold of Kevins plantation Kinam and decided to do a comparison with my selected White, Green and Black Kyara. It lingers in the corners of a room for at least an hour for me, and is rich, damp, loamy, dark. Google's Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. Just like a kid in a candy store. Fatty aldehydes contain between 8 and 13 carbon atoms in their molecular composition and have a very pleasant fruity or floral scent. All this cultivated Kinam talkplaced e-bay order on January 31still waiting on it Did you get a tracking number? There was once only one kind of car. Some few dozen plus injections. Visit Baieido or Shoyeido and buy their kinam. In my opinion, until somebody distil an oil from actual Kyara wood than you can actually know what is that smell you can compare it. Miu Miu opens like a peppery green floral. Game over oil. It's arresting in its noticeability (I sometimes lose track of tasks I'm doing, so it's a 'sit on the meditation pillow bro' stick for me). Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The Japanese hold that kinam only originates in Vietnam, Hainan and parts of Cambodia while the Chinese have identified kinam invarious other agarwood-growing regions. Its you and I benefitting from generations of refinement. It is profound.Rasoul / Canada, It is, without reservation, a piece of art. Here, another question arises: At what stage of the resination process is akyaratree, akyaratree? The first time I put the tiniest sliver on the heater, I was expecting wafts of plumy twang or a darker shade of New Guinea filaria. Both of these sans effort set off the senses sailing into an abode of recurrent wonderment although Kyara still seems to retain some terrestrial links as if standing at a peak linking both this world and the beyond. In fact as I mentioned, this plantation Kinam is amazing in its own way considering the short inoculation period and the generated scent profile. Or just a regular agarwood tree? Chokoh for an intoxicating experience, and Rufen for a mysterious and accessible experience. WebCertainly the Kyara is the bigger and deeper scent, with a rich dark woody quality in addition to the ethereal camphoric and green qualities a lot going on, and all of it so enjoyable Kyararemains a mystery to this day even for the most seasoned collectors of vintagekyarachips. Thank you all for taking time to read this! Wow! The resin created as a natural immune response makes the most sacred oil on the planet. Its good to also burn one stick at a time and maintain a steady burn routine so your nose learns to work around that acrid smell. Some even get hung up about the sinensis distinction, without having smelled either kinam OR sinensis. So goood. This superb Kinam or Kyara Oud as its also known, was distilled using super rare sinking grade Kinam chips from Indonesia. Yet there is nothing smoky about the oil if it makes any sense. Thats how you get white kinam and purple kinam, and Papuan oud oil. Just like using those old charts outlining the traits of different kinds of agarwood is effectively useless today sasora is sour while kyara is bitteror smells like an aristocrat in its elegance and gracefulness. Memories though can distract from mindfulness, and the Nha Trang is pure presence, resonating like a singing bowl, calling you back to mindfulness, helping you to see memories and let them go and be aware of the beauty youre being given now. Scents like lemon and orange are not only well-known for their Vitamin C properties, but simply sniffing the fruit can help boost energy and alertness. Houzan reminds me a bit of the Confucious Kyara stick from Baiedo. Kyara shape-shifts somewhat and with time different facets of kyara/kinam and different origins come out.Rasoul/ Canada, So I applied a dot of Kyara became totally zoned out, remembered I still havent eaten (dangerous following a workout), and then I learned something dont apply Kyara while you are waiting for your naan bread to warm up in the grill youll forget all about it and the naan will burn and set your smoke alarms off. I think Royal Kynam had a slightly more medicinal effect, but I do think overall Kyara takes first place. or Aquilaria agallocha andis a very popular ingredient in Japanese incense and is often used in traditional Chinese, Unanai, Ayurvedic, and Tibetan medicine. than the Ryugen, which I will go into below, so I consider it like an Aloeswood Extreme. Fav part is the very impressive evolution to drydown and the overall weight. Though nobody seems to have a clue, most agree that kyara is a mystery. Maybe even more interesting in a certain way than the Nha Trang, because of Kyaras jungle memories. Aloeswood is the resinous wood from the Aquilaria tree, an evergreen tree native to northern India, Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia, Indonesia, and Vietnam. The scent is profound. I believe it is a process that yieldskyara, a question of age, nutrients, soil, light, water and of course the bugs. I am new to incense, I would like to know the differences between these products. Kyara This is the most famous and well known of all Aloes wood some believe to come from either Vietnam or Cambodia. Sometimes, unusual urine odor After signing up, please check your email for your coupon. LCG, It's not likely that smelling Kyara will be an epiphany. The scent of these chips sent me off into a frenzy. If it was all up in the air with fluffy fairytales, there wouldnt be millions of $ changing hands like you see in these circles. From this evolution in kinam appreciation came two schools of thought: the Japanese and the Chinese. *Written by David Oller of Esoterics, LLC. It's probably a bit more accessible, but still has many layers. While everyone is unsure about its origin and how exactly it gets produced, theres no mystery about what kyara smells like. Kinam was already part of their culture before the USA even existed! Its odor is described as woody, spicy and floral. Same with kyara. Along with the odor, discharge may be greenish-yellow, and you may Enough with the charts and ancient descriptions. I wont blame you if you disagreeour skin chemistries are different. Today the resin is commonly called Jinko, Aloeswood, Agarwood, and Oud. For any oudhead, this is a delicious festival to look forward to, drinking in the meticulousness of oudheads that went before. Sit with a Chinese agarwood collector as he shows you his collection. Were no longer talking sinking-grade here, or about an untapped jungle. Not many oils do that. Thats what I find so fascinating about discussions about kinam: the uncertainty. An inferior resin is created by the deliberate wounding of an Aquilaria tree, leaving it more susceptible to a fungal attack by using a forced method. Borneo Kinam is a testament to this legacy. But if someone with more experience and a deeper appreciation for nuance identifies differences, that doesnt mean he makes things up. The Japanese incense houses and Chinese agarwood collectors monopolize kinam because they sought out and bought out all of it over the years, long before others caught on thats why soil kyara is a big thing now, because with no living kyara trees standing, the only place youre likely to find kyara today is underground. Being a newer distillation it has a great top note profile. Ants smell the chemicals that make up odors with olfactory receptors on their antennae. It is a special oil. This is an incredibly potent oud! Thatsthe kinam youre getting in this kit. I heated some lovely purple kinam last night, and also spent some time smelling the raw wood after freshly shaving my heater qty off it - very beautiful smell indeed - I agree LC that it is soul stirring.. Welli would say the green note is just one facet of the Kyara total scent profile and in totality, the smell from those oils are hardly an exact representation of a heated kyara sliver. Im not offering you a mystery: This is kyara as identified by kyara experts in Japan and China, and sold as kyara by the most respected authorities in the field. This oud is long lasting, maintaining excellent consistency/ quality of fragrance giving hours of enjoyment. Nha Trang is rather linear in the most beautiful minimalistic way. Klee smells burnt (because she plays with bombs) Jean smells like flowers. that it constitutes the apex of that oud family. But dont panic. Welcome to r/incense, a community dedicated to the discussion of incense of all kinds. The scent is beautifully distinct and exquisitely rare; the golden tip at the top of the oud pyramid, regardless of the country its found in. With some oils its just super clear, the base materials were nuts and the juicing perfect. Its scent. But kyara always had a special place in agarwood culture. Kyara defines what I do and Kyara is not only as close to kyara an oud oil can get, but one that takes you beyond the wonder of the wood into the labyrinth wonderland of oud oil where red kinam smells green smells purple smells more, all at once. The truth is, while kyara is made out to be a mystery, its not. You know its nonsense, but hereally believed this and taught it as truth. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA. It smells like great, if restrained, aloeswood to me, but I don't notice anything Kyara-like but I may be looking for too narrow a definition of Kyara. Last comment: this is by far the most incensey oil I have come across. I get it, though. If youre curious to learn more, take a walk inside your Ive even been treated to kinam by esteemed distillers only to realize what they generously offered me was notkinam by any standard. But if a medical student has not yet graduated, he is not a doctor. This is not your typical loud Rose Ouds that populate the market today. So .5 ml can go a looooong way.Rasoul / USA, None to this date has been as clear, as loud, as evident and as glorious as Kyara when it comes to capturing the scent of kinam and kinamic wood on higher heat. Asyou can see, these are sold kyara chunks,notthe tiny shavings most ofus are at best able to get our hands on Edited by Scents of Earth. Vanilla can elevate your mood. How does the grading work? Hi oud learner, I have no doubt about your experience with the wood and you are most likely right about it, but this is not what is representing by 2 of the vendors who are selling this type of oud oils: Peter. At first sniff, one is brought into the presence of kyara, feeling its huge impact, opening up the doors of the mind to a vaster plain. Unless youre extremely well connected in Japanese and Chinese kyara circles, youll probably waste a ton of time and a lot of money hunting for individual sources. The generation who first discovered kyara only knew it as one thing. In its opening. The truth is, while kyara is made out to be a mystery, its not. Is Kyara better than that? Try for as long as you can to stay clear of it. Diehard skeptics who criticize the Chinese school and insist that its a marketing trick miss one crucial point: Its MUCH easier to find Vietnamese kinam than Chinese kinam. The Japanese hold that kinam only originates in Vietnam, Hainan and parts of Cambodia while the Chinese have identified kinam in various other agarwood-growing regions. Kruger and I thought they were joking or testing us, but no they genuinely thought what they showed us is kinam. Sore as hell and in pain. Thank you for taking the time to write this. In my opinion, all of Minoriens incenses are great and the Ryugen is like an upgraded version of the aloeswood and kyara. I find it very deep and meditative for me. But if you insist on Vietnamese kinam being the only kinam out there, youll still be left in awe at how these Brunei, Borneo, and Chinese palettes smell so out of this world compared to regular varieties from the same regions. Harvested at only 85 years, the resin has not hardened to the degree of being identified as incense grade agarwood, let alonekyara. Press J to jump to the feed. Here is a link to a post comparing Ryugen and Chokoh no 5: https://www.reddit.com/r/Incense/comments/frzaw6/minorien_fuin_kyaras_reviewcomparisonlistening/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf. Just as you would, when talking about kinam, at least have an industry-standard reference like Baieidos on hand (eg. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. So, thingscanget puzzling. The Kyara Kit is a testament to this legacy. In this Kyara Kit, weve put together a collection of kinam granules that covers both schools. But if someone with more experience and a deeper appreciation for nuance identifies differences, that doesnt mean he makes things up. That people arent sure what it smells like; that to them kinam doesnt really stand out from the crowd. Not sure who you ordered from but I usually try giving vendors the botd. woke up with the scent of the oil on my upper lips and wrist smelling like it was applied an hour before, whereas it was more like 10 hours since worn! A w12 engine on a Bentley. JavaScript is disabled. Scent is their main form of Though nobody seems to have a clue, most agree that kyara is a mystery. Same with kyara. It is not even a scent as much as it is an experience.Phil / USA, This oil is simply outrageous, it has no peer. A fellow oud connoisseur, Thomas S., had this to add to the discussion: If we substitute, for the sake of this discussion, the word kyara with cherry, we see a different definition coming up. I dont buy the claim that kinam is a modern marketing tool, but I do get why people say this. As is mentioned in reviews below, Kyara is the name of the oud wood most highly prized in Japan and China. Many people report a particular scent appearing around this time of year; some describe it as melancholy, while others associate it with more pleasant harvest-type smells. I'm struggling to figure out what people are calling 'kyara' smell. Sit with a Chinese agarwood collector as he shows you his collection. Ensar Oud said Kyara is like having the full Baklava boxed and delivered in all its glory. Anyways, special oil and as far as I see it a must for any and all oud lovers. Off-putting to my nose but too much other awesome going on that I can get past it and still derive pleasure and still crave it again.Rasoul / Canada, .25 gr high recovery V-vial, 3 gr EO-Vial. The generation who first discovered kyara only knew it as one thing. So, if we assume that no-one knows what constituteskyara (as you wrote) could we also safely assume thatkyarais not a genetic disposition, but is related to certain environmental factors, such as nutrients, age, climate etc? For those who deal in kinam, collect kinam, or routinely indulge in kinam, there is no confusion. [:p], This dude has got not just a Rolls-Royce, hes got a whole fleet of them. Scent of such grade of wood on low heat is prettier and more easy to understand but there is a case for its high heat smoking scent too. Lisa smells like new books. Connoisseurs refine their senses and appreciation because thats how you evolve. And the olfactory density is of the highest caliber, it is immediately brain-piercing. In the form of Bakhoor, which is scented wood chips soaked in fragrance oils, it burns in public places and private homes throughout the Middle East and North Africa. How long does the smell linger for most of the Minorien incense sticks? 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