I think we suffered a bit by being right on-axis with the speakers. I never quite got it. But not everybody can afford to buy an amp that costs as much as a Mercedes. Sidenote: I used a Stratocaster with the tone knobs around 7/10 to get closer to the Robben Ford sound for this clip: I know it's a hard task but has anyone in here taken a shot at the Robben Ford tone? 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At the same time, Dumble took meticulous notes on the frequency spectrum that he was hearing. When I would go record an album, I would use basic rhythm charts with an occasional bass line. The box is crisp and new looking. We dont know much about Dumble amps, its a highly obscure subject due to the small number of amplifiers ever built and Alexander Dumbles very mysterious nature and personality, yet everything about this is fascinating to the guitar community. "It hasn't changed very much in quite some time," Ford says of . Even more transparent and liquid than my Mesa Boogie Mark 4 lead tone. Getting ready to jump into this project. The Mayer Screamer meets the Robben Dumble. Watching Robben Ford take the stage is equal parts gratifying, awe-inspiring, and challenginga perfect storm of creativity and emotion that results in some seriously good music. He has the crispest Tele tone I've ever heard, too. Visit our corporate site (opens in new tab). Looks like someone finally added information to the Wiki page, last time I viewed it there was almost no information. Share Reply Quote 15th February 2011 | Show parent # 5 CrownBox Gear Nut Dec 29, 2021. I learned a lot from him even before playing with him, including the importance of space, melody, and sound. He's playing one of those guitars in the album cover photo. Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, This is once again a situation in which the player that ordered the amp from Alexander Dumble is unsure of what was done to it. At any rate afterwards, I bought a Zen and Concert amp. Ford thinks modern jazz can lose sight of its roots. However, I did finally find a tone that I like very much, which is really stellar (to my ears anyway) with my Strat in the second pickup selector position (neck + middle). Never noticed the plexiglass shield before. running the Dumble’s line out/loop send to the Vibrato channel of the Super Reverb with a guitar cable. There are two inputs: a "normal" input and FET input where the signal from the guitar goes to a J-FET line level booster pre-amplifier before entering the first tube stage (originally intended for use with acoustic guitars and other instruments with low output levels). This assumption would require one amp to be taken as the primary reference, but Howard Alexander Dumble never built two amps to be the same. So I'm playing in a big band at the local college, first time I've ever done this, Carter's owners sold the business to the guitar retailer North American Guitar in March of last year. (Serial 001 is Dumble's personal amp.) When a six-figure amp just doesnt cut it. My electric drums have a hard time going full on retro but this is what I got: Hmmmmroll off the treble some. He couldn't have been using a ZenDrive in the late 80s. #1. I also have a Neck Mayer Big Dipper pickup and after today's visit to tech, I'm yanking: CS9 Neck, Fat 50 Mid and Texas Specials Bridge set-up to try Cruz pickups. At one time back in the late '80's, his go to set-ups on the road consisted of a Fender Concert into a ZenDrive. On top of the regular EQ section (Treble, Middle, and Bass) this amp also has two potentiometers that control one High Pass Filter and one Low Pass Filter, which is not a very common feature to be found on guitar amplifiers. He later acquired a second unit that was almost a replica of the first one. Thats basically it, Ford says. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Get the latest and greatest Guitar news with one of our guitar magazine subscriptions. I was in the 3rd row right in front of him and his amps. It is designed to get the overdriven sound of a Dumble Overdrive Guitar Amp. Robben Ford Format: Vinyl 176 ratings See all 5 formats and editions Streaming Unlimited MP3 $8.99 Listen with our Free App Audio CD $18.58 3 Used from $9.70 8 New from $12.99 Vinyl from $199.98 1 Collectible from $199.98 Customers who viewed this item also viewed $18.99 $10.74 12 offers from $11.09 25 offers from $2.99 Product details I hope things improve. I find that very few jazz players today really keep in touch with the tradition, going all the way back to Louis Armstrong. Dumble did not expand his operation and self-built all his amps from scratch, resulting in long lead times and alleged eccentric order terms and conditions. The most important pedals, in his estimation, are the TC Electronic Hall of Fame Reverb because my amps dont have reverb and the Strymon TimeLine Multidimensional Delay. I will most likely build the cab. In fact, he had a signature model based on the Esprit and he was using them a lot around the time "Talk To Your Daughter" was recorded/released. Pietro fell in love with the guitar at a young age and has been hooked ever since. If it works out, I may have one built for me. This was easy enough and all good until his speakers got stuck in customs! The tele seems to be a crucial part of the tone right? Does anyone have any experience with these, for an occasional DIY'er? Events, Webcams and more. The key is setting the amp up pretty warm and midrangy with a healthy amount of reverb, delay, and/or chorus. Most Dumble ODSs were made using EL34 output valves, but there are variations, for example Larry Carlton owns one that runs on 6V6s for a lower output, intended for smaller venues. By mgdm74, May 1, 2014 in POD HD. I use the Dumble whenever possible and usually take it overseas. Harper says that Lindley reached out to him because he wanted to sell both of them, and apparently, they met in a THEATER where both of the amps were set up for him to tryyou know, the usual. Answer: Finding a Dumble for sale is challenging, even when money is not an issue. The idea that something or somebody could be considered legendary within the music world isnt anything new. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. So, what are you waiting for? Some can nail the classic Dumble sound, while many take it in their own direction. In the jazz world, Id have to say Jim Halland B.B. The way the two channels interact with each other is pretty peculiar: the overdrive section of the amp is built to go on top of the clean channel, basically overdriving it, very similar to how an external overdrive pedal would work. GuitarZone.com: Guitar Discussion Forum and Lessons. Fuchs makes the ODS and the ODS II, which are two different takes (revisited by Andy Fuchs) on the Overdrive Special, so the starting point is a Dumble, but theyre not exact replicas. I personally don't feel it captures the Dumble tone or feel anymore than you might reasonably expect a small solid state pedal to (but I feel the same about Plexi pedals, etc). With the Strat into Vibroverb setup, I'm guessing you are a SRV fan, no? Like other contemporary LA amp hot-rodders, including Randall Smith and Paul Rivera, Dumble pursued his own high-gain ideas and built amps for customers on a bespoke basis. Not sure where to put thisit's not really guitar technique, but it does have to do with practicing, etc. Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, Their use by some of the most respected players in LA, including Larry Carlton, Robben Ford, Carlos Santana has added to the Dumble legend, while their rarity (it's estimated there are fewer than 300 real ODS's) has driven up used values to extreme levels, typically 100K-150K. Unfortunately if that's the case, the Zendrive was designed to sound more like the Dumble Overdrive Special ala Robben Ford/Larry Carlton instead of the Dumble Steel String Singer that Stevie used. Key to the Dumble sound is the way the clean preamp cascades into the overdrive section. What are you waiting for. I mean Robben Ford says that the clones do not compare to a real Dumble and all hell breaks loose from the hobby players with big bucks invested. Finally, his board is rounded out by a TC Electronic PolyTune, as well as a footswitch to activate overdrive and boost on his Dumble amp and we all know how much Ford likes Dumble amps. Users of Dumble amps include Stevie Ray Vaughan, Larry Carlton, Robben Ford and many others. If I were stuck on a desert island, I would have to have my original Dumble Overdrive Special. Starting from Scratch (again) with One Archtop, A chronological approach for learning Jazz. I knew SRV used one, never knew Robben Ford did until today. I use the Zendrive for overdrive, a TC Electronic Hall of Fame reverb pedal, the Strymon TimeLine delay, and the Vertex Boost., 6. Wow, not very often you see Dumble amps these days and I have been curious about them ever since I heard about the SSS model which can be heard on the Electromagnets album featuring Eric Johnson, however he dropped the amp after the power transformers blew out and due to their rarity, getting the replacement parts would cost a fortune so he replaced them with 1960 Twin Reverbs. Over the last 40 years, Robben Ford has established himself in the somewhat gray area between gutbucket blues, exploratory jazz, and soulful R&B. J.Rockett The Dude. Every month we feature interviews with the biggest names and hottest new acts in guitar land, plus Guest Lessons from the stars. As soon as he plays his first note, you realize that you're in the presence of a bonafide guitar master. Joe Bonamassa Forum Joe's Guitars, Amps and Gear Zendrive Settings, You must login or register to post a reply. Unique story on the gighis tech called a few days before the gig requesting 2x G12-65's because he didn't have his cab with him. There was a problem. Jazz is the music of improvisation. MusicRadar is part of Future plc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. As we all know, guitarists are keen on obsessing about gear, and Dumble amps are the perfect pieces of equipment to obsess on. Try using a touch of chorus for that classic 80s vibe. I'm also having trouble getting a "Dumble" tone out of it, it kinda just sounds like a low gain Tubescreamer. The Zendrive is a little overhyped IMO and to me sounds very similar to what you described: A lower gain/more refined tubescreamer. talks about his Dumble-modified original Fender Deluxe Amp from the 60s as his desert island amplifier in yet another Premier Guitar Rig-Rundown. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Having recently fielded a multitude of questions from fans about his gear, Ford took to Instagram to give viewers a private tour of his pedalboard, which you can check out below. And as much as I like Eric Johnson, who is not only an excellent player, but a very nice and kind guy, his Super Reverb was aimed right at my friend and me. I was at the Austin show, too! Yesterday by The Beatles is a legendary song, The Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd is a legendary album, Jimi Hendrix is a legendary guitar player, a 1959 Gibson Les Paul is a legendary guitar, and the mythical pact between Robert Johnson and Mr. 666 himself is considered to be legendary as well. Trust us, Robben, you have nothing to apologize for. My very first archtop guitar was a Washburn. Beyond that, I dont really have a practice regiment. These differences would ultimately influence how the sound was sculpted inside the circuits of one specific Dumble amplifier. Wired up and test the voltage doubled which powers the relays. After 3 to 5 years of exclusive and obsessive work, the amp was done. Effects It bites a bit too much. It has the crisp highs and slightly chewy and fuzzy lows and mids that I think of as the Dumble sound (think Robben Ford). All rights reserved. It hasnt changed very much in quite some time, Ford says of his board. ;-). It was a little scary, but we saw it through, and Im absolutely delighted with how it turned out.. Answer: Like with everything else that is guitar-related, it depends. 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If its a mellow tune, I take an aggressive left turn to something harder. Or why not treat yourself? A. D. E. F. C. A#m. Also wired bias jacks and power tubes. F#. Bath He runs this Overdrive Special through a Dumble 2x12 cabinet that was actually made for his second Dumble head. Find effects pedal ads in our Books, Music & Games category. S. Way cool. Page 9. Both sets sound great. You have the cloners bashing each other, cloner shrills hammering other amps, and some epic slap downs. There is no Dumble on the entire album, Ford told GP back in 2019. Apr 7th 2012. How can something music-related acquire legendary status? You can look on https://reverb.com/, where occasionally you might see something pop up. Sounds kind of like Robben Ford's Gibson through a Dumble tone too. My ears said it was exactly JB said in the original post. Chords: Bm. more One of the ways I will break out of a jam is to make a hard left turn from where the song was originally going. Passive Input (no buffer), Stereo Outputs (left and right) with Vertex Dual Output Buffers tweaked to Robben's taste with two voicings (adjustable via toggle switch), isolation transformer on left output to prevent any grounding when using two amplifiers together, and a polarity switch to optimize sonic performance when using two amplifiers in a My favourite pedal for single coils (which also sounds fantastic with humbuckers) is the Barber Direct Drive SS - it does remind me of Joe's tone to some extent - almost a Dumble/Marshall hybrid. We may earn a commission on any affiliated purchases. Let me answer some of the questions you might have on your mind after reading this article. Haha yeah I guess you could say that, I like his music though and am always fascinated by his sound. I got closest with my Strat (Suhr V60LP pickups) and the tone knobs turned to 7/10. It sounded better to me as I was sitting more on the opposite said of him and not receiving a direct hit. If you can spare even US$5 it would mean a lot to help pay for GZ'smonthlyserverbill.Thank you to all. I tried using the Dumble again for overdubs and guitar solos, but it didnt fit, so we cut the record on small amps. First of all, I have to point out that it is too simplistic to talk about THE dumble sound. Heres how it works. I've seen him gig with just the Super and a Zendrive and sounded great. Okay now I'm getting a hang of this thing a little more. Robben Ford uses many different guitars and over the years his sounds have changed quite a lot, however, he continues to be strongly associated with his Dumble. These forward-thinking veterans realise the power and opportunity of combining old-world tone with cutting-edge technology. To warm up his fingers, Ford sticks to the basics. This pedal looks almost brand new. the forum rules you agreed to follow when you signed up, https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=690805, http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/wheres-my-d-sound.116792/#post-1394891. Discover Robben Ford's Biography, Age, Height, Physical Stats, Dating/Affairs, Family and career. Studio musicians need to add their mojo. Thats no good. Regardless, it was a great show. We are a community of guitar players, and enthusiasts and we want to spread the love for music to anyone with the heart to play. B. BA1 1UA. is this Mark Whitfield's new D'angelico??? Yes. It's actually a super fat reverb sound that takes a lot of space in the mix. There are several different types of Dumble amplifier but the most famous is the Overdrive Special, which features a clean channel that cascades into a foot switchable overdrive circuit with a passive EQ and pre-gain EQ switches that pre-set the EQ for different styles. All rights reserved. Do you think the texas specials will be too close in sound to the kenny wayne shepherd pickups? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Alexander Howard Dumble built several different amp models, some of them are pretty well known, and we have some information about them, like in the case of the Overdrive Special or the above mentioned Steel String Singer, while others arent nearly as popular, and their characteristics remain mysterious, like in the case of the Explosion, the Dumbleland or the Winterland. For guitar, my 63 ES-355 would do just fine., 4. Robben Ford began as a blues guitar prodigy, playing with legendary artists Jimmy Witherspoon and Charlie Musselwhite, and transitioned into a fusion master as a member of bands like the Yellowjackets and Tom Scotts L.A. Express. Location. Jimi Hendrix is a unique stylist of the electric guitar, and is a huge influence on my rhythm playing., 2. LA session man extraordinaire and Steely Dan collaborator, Larry Carltons tone has - like Robben Fords - also changed considerably over the years; his contemporary sound is much cleaner and using his considerable taste, Larry Carlton also makes full use of the Dumbles extensive headroom for control over dynamics, attack and sustain. Demos Gladio SC - Official Demo Watch on Or is it the perceived value and overall impact on the general public? He also tells a story about playing a gig with guitar legend Larry Carlton: they were both playing through their Overdrive Special amplifiers, each voiced specifically by Dumble for the two different players, and when they tried switching amps for fun, it ended up sounding weird for both of them. My info came from another working pro and Ford fan, who told me about this in mid 2000's. My experience with it is that it is a finicky pedal to dial in. If it can get anywhere near Joyo's bold claims, then it could be a decent drive pedal for those of us that are gigging and cannot afford to lug around a $70,000 amp! The Overdrive Specials featured global master volume and presence controls. As for what else is on his 'board? Good price, good customer service, they even gave me a ive got nothing at all against plastic cabs I would favor the ZD and Marshall Blues Breaker in front of any blackface. Have no doubt that these are both leading examples of the genre - with no less than the Robben Ford himself offering his own endorsement - per the below visual! 1. Heres how it works. He is also a recording and performing musician, and a former editor of Guitar World magazine and executive editor of Guitar Aficionado magazine. Please refresh the page and try again. J.Rockett's The Dude is designed to capture the tone of the Dumble Overdrive Special amplifier. Request Chords. I like the Fulltone Fulldrive 2 into my Fender amps for the Bonamassa type tones. I owned a Zen Drive for a while and recently sold it. He started gigging when he was 14 years old and hasnt yet put his guitar down. running the Dumbles line out/loop send to the Vibrato channel of the Super Reverb with a guitar cable. You are using an out of date browser. These amps were hand-built to best match the different players that requested them. It was actually really good for the price. . That's what I get for relying on unverified info. Unsurprisingly, given second-hand Dumble values, there are many overdrive pedals that can be used to approximate the Dumble tone. Total Guitar is Europe's best-selling guitar magazine. This will push the leadtone to something more saturated good for high gain rock solos. To end this list, I have to mention the Italian-made (just like myself) Atom Amplifiers, another excellent take on Dumbles original designs. I was too far away to see amp settings and cables. 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