The sky doesnt have a smell unless you want to smell like pollution imo. However, consideration goes both ways and it sounds like your coworker is taking this to an extreme. If a coworker is constantly complaining about you, keep a record. Youve done all that it is reasonable to ask of you. That just made my phantom smell issues like 10x worse because I was right one time.). This only hit home for me because it was related to scent sensitivities, and this issue just happened to me today. My coworker was just a bully. And yeah, it really makes me feel for the OP here. Oh no! If she says the smell is on your scarf, but you have a new scarf, then Id get a second opinion. but your coworkers will thank you. It was only when I went on vacation with friends and that was the only whiskey sold at the bodega near where we were staying that I managed to drink it again. And if it works properly your nose is one of the most sensitive sense organs you have. Men also use this gesture to stake their territory or to show other men that they're not afraid. Oh trust me, I've been trying to get a private office for years. Eat something and get sick and your body remembers at a very basic level. It is going down the whole ethnic food route of complaining about stinky food. And certain West African men wear cologne. So if the co-worker were to have a genuine allergy to patchouli, say, it wouldnt help. But it sounds like a cant win for losing situation :(. I would still never buy it or order it in a bar, however. Patchouli is a fairly distinctive scent, particularly as a fragrance oil, which smells absolutely nothing like lemon. Even if she has legitimate fragrance sensitivities and some people do, although its not clear if thats really whats going on with her or not this isnt the way for her to handle it. At this point, the issue is that she has a coworker whos being rude and snarky to her, not that she should just stop using bubble bath on weekends or so forth. If you have a fabric covered chair for instance, the fabric might have absorbed some patchouli prior to this incident. (I try to share this with people if theyd believe me and not be offended [e.g., my boyfriend] so they know why I might have to suddenly leave the room, but lots of people think this is totally fake and incredibly rude [e.g., my mother, who unfortunately chews with her mouth open in a way that taps into my crazybrain]. And the OP is herself sensitive to chemical smells, so the Febreeze would be harming herself. I'd excuses myself and if boss asked why I'd say I can't be near someone who sniffles or. Like those toilet sprays for example. It's possible that it's lingering in a way that you don't realize. I'm 12 I have the same problem it started like a year ago it drives my mam mad I really want to know what's causing it, Im only 14 and I sniff all the fricking time its really annoying and I carnt take it anymore. Your boss took this seriously the first time. Last week I walked past a spot where an older lady had gotten out of her car and I could barely breathe for the perfume smell. Singing, coughing, sniffling - you name it. Sadly, lots of people fall for this. A hot bath, with scented salts and a glass wine after work sounds awful good to me right now. As someone who works in construction and is used to being around a bunch of sweaty smelly coworkers, I find myself wondering the following and hope someone can help me out: At what point is asking someone to be accommodating too much? I will ask do you still use your perfume on the weekends? When my problem first started, I steadfastly blamed the people around me for being inconsiderate and expected them to fix it. Wow. Guess what? I will also say, as someone who is very sensitive to smells, that if the scent bothers the coworker it would probably only take a trace amount for her to smell it, although shes handling it like a jerk. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Ah, I see you already made my point about how other people might have conflicting allergies. Apparently it made her sick when she was pregnant with me. If you have a problem with them, buy me something different.. If she thought I was gone for the day, shed even use my cubicle as a spray booth for whatever reason. First of all, if there REALLY is a smell, even a very faint one, that shes making a big deal about it, you have shown her that you are and have dealt with it and now the matter is settled. Sounds like this is a common bullying tactic. Chicken is the reason I gave up vegetarianism after 7 years and I honestly could go without any other meat lamb is nice, steak is good occasionally. Its reached the point where it feels like juvenile bullying and I honestly dont know what to do. Yeah, I use some pretty cheap shampoo/conditions (yay Suave!) If its at the point where its only popping up twice over a few months, and your coworker is upset that you keep bringing it up because she feels shes addressed it, it seems like your coworker has done what she can and it would be a good idea not to bring it up with her anymore. I wouldn't blame anyone for dunking their heads into a basket of feral man meat hammocks. We can list every single scented item under the sun that ~maybe~ is causing OP to have some sort of fragrance but really, this is over exaggeration and harassment on coworkers part. It literally smells so strongly it reaches the entire office. For instance, I became a super-smeller when I was pregnant, and lots of things suddenly started to smell vile to me. It seems like you are already doing everything it is reasonable to ask a person to do (and possibly more). If those same people saw the fire, theyd be grateful and not at all offended. Washing with unscented or mildly-scented bath productsmaybe reasonable, depending sometimes the only shampoo/conditioner that works well for someones hair has an unavoidable scent and I dont think its reasonable to expect someone to figure out an entire new hair routine (which is a process that takes time and money and trial and error, not to mention bad hair days in the interim, with the concomitant hit to self-esteem that may cause) to accommodate a coworker. Um no. Patchouli is a very specific smell, Im sure youd know if you were using it. I used to love a scented oil, Rose Musk and I had to stop wearing it because I had two bosses that made their eyes water. Have a colleague who won't stop sniffling, all day every day, for weeks on end, he doesn't even have a cold. It just makes it worse. You've been told. Weve had plenty of discussions, especially regarding food, that scents are very personal and while someone may hate one they are completely fine with other strong scents. I had another friend that said they also became scent-sensitive when they were having chemo. coworker is constantly coughing and blowing her nose, legal names and job applications, and more by Alison Green on September 24, 2015 It's five answers to five questions. Starting a couple of years in, they brought in unscented liquid soap for the public bathrooms, because theres not much point asking everyone to use unscented products at home/in their hotel rooms if possible, and then have everyone use orange-scented hand soap all day. blanket? Find out which foods you should watch out for. I mean I get the idea but thats a heck of a food to ruin. Handling 'Gross' Things Can Be Tricky for HR Advice for HR professionals. The best thing Ive ever found for bathroom sprays, which actually seems to cut through and dissipate unpleasant smells, is the citrus magic sprays that use actual lemon, lime, orange, and grapefruit oils. Otherwise, theres a whole other layer of gross here. Thats just how it is. I love shoe sniffing stories, especially when it involves hot girls with stinky shoes. It's much like giving small children a new toy to play. Its a hippie scentmaybe. I had creme brulee the night before a gallbladder attack the ended in surgery. Ha ha ha! Its pretty frustrating to scroll through. If OP regularly wore scents, it is possible the scent is there and she is noseblind to it. It may not register with me that Im smelling something, but if Im in a good mood and start getting irritable for no apparent reason, I usually think about the smells around me to identify the culprit. There is something wrong with this. It's driving me crazy at times. Some spells last for hours, some all day and some effect me breathing as well as I am constantly sniffling. should I be so emotionally drained by managing? I would go to HR myself and complain that I am being harassed by a co-worker who in spite of your having ended wearing the perfume that bothered her is waging a campaign of harassment against you. It seems pretty clear to me that she was referring to essential oils as a subset of perfume, and when she said she stopped wearing perfume she stopped wearing the oils too. Its really hard not to come across as rude. It just seems to cross a boundary of reasonableness. Not everything can be accommodated. For the two years I worked there, there was not another issue. Curiously enough, the first symptom I get is irritability, and my fight or flight response kicks in. On the plus side, I did learn how to ask for anti-histimine cream and tablets in Spanish. They feel so over-the-top as to be completely unreasonable to ask of a coworker. Time to go on the offensive here. Talk to your doctor about Some scents are just super-persistent that way they arent technically on you but clothes absorb them like a sponge. Hes little and sneaks off and pees in low-traffic corners so its easy to miss. This may be snarky.but perhaps the coworker could simply rub a bit of Vicks Vapor Rub just above her upper lip. Like the cheese thing, this blows most peoples minds. Sorry, I scented was an autocorrectI wrote unscented. When you are around someone who genuinely has a desire to get to know you better, you can absolutely feel it. I completely agree. not wearing perfume to work). Here are 11 signs you're dealing with a toxic coworker. Its really hard to find an average drug store might have one type of unscented shampoo for babies. that are much more reasonable than making an entire office change routines and buy completely new products. Scents seem to fuse to them. Blondie batter? I recommend that you febreeze everything in your office if you have carpet or upholstery. The jerkness indicator that leaps out at me is that she is still fixated on patchouli, which is a pretty distinctive smell. The cuffs absolutely did smell like patchouli but I had gone nose blind to it. Perhaps he has the scent-free version that my two cents mentioned. Honestly, next time she snarks about patchouli, Id literally laugh in her face, like Seriously? ), so part of me wonders if shes just being nasty or if another coworker is wearing those scents and shes just assuming its OP. Should we talk to the manager or HR about that? In other words, I tried steps 1-4 above, but was on my own to deal with this nut and couldnt get anything to work. I think its one of those scents that everyones nose interprets differently. yup, havent eaten bananas since I was about 5. it also helps with static electricity AND acts as a fabric softener and is much cheaper than store bought fabric softener. But you can pry my Gain laundry detergent out of my cold dead hands. STOP WEARING THE ESSENTIAL OILS. There is at least one in every office. Short of quitting smoking forever and replacing my entire wardrobe, there was no way that I was ever going to make her happy. I feel like it's so rude and inconsiderate of other coworkers. Yeah I agree its rude of the coworker. This accomplishes TWO things. So whether shes extra-sensitive or not, shes clearly a jerk. I supervise a manager who falsified an employee write-up but I dont think she should be fired, getting out of shared intern housing, why are so many executives condescending, and more, interviewer fake-rejected me to see if I would fight for the job. Not to mention, if the only change was the perfume you started wearing, then not wearing it anymore and cleaning all your clothes should have stopped the problem. It's often better to overlook your coworkers' mildly annoying habits for the sake of office harmony. But whenever I smell patchouli, I think of my mom many years ago, and its comforting. Of not, then she can be moved to a less bothersome location. Are you using patchouli scented anything at home? I feel like Id want to get to the root of the problem. Be mindful of how you feel around this person. And if the smell is in your bath towel or sheets, traces of it could be getting on you without you realizing it. This woman is over the top. I empathize with those who have trouble controlling their sniffles because sometimes even the best, most consistent health care cant turn off the faucets in your face, and no amount of tissues in the world will ever be enoughbut f*ck is that repeated sound awful. Buy a token set of headphones and see how it goes for a week. Brush that crazy right off and go about your business. Issues are raised. Ideally, purchase some high-quality noise-canceling earphones and leave your desk. Yes, when I pour some vinegar into the washer there is no vinegar smell when the wash is done. But long workdays also give a snitch the chance to witness all other workers' comings, goings, and other activities. This women used lemon scented Clorox wipes. They want to make it seem like you are not a good fit for the job. Weve worked together on this project for about six months, and been in the same office for about three years? Or, if OP isnt the type to be cold at work, perhaps a fan set on low that could blow the scented air away from the coworker? Wear what you will, but please know that you are not keeping the smell away from coworkers. I want to clarify that my But I agree that patchouli is one.of.those.smells. line meant that most will either love it or hate it as evidenced by our two opinions here. But it also brings up the question of why the coworker all of a sudden has fragrance sensitivities if last month was the first time it was brought up. (Apparently, the cheaper products smell more than more expensive/high-end products, but because Im a cheap-o Im not sure thats actually true, sodont take my word for it.). I've already encountered six this morning and didn't even get public transport to work (the worst danger zone). Because unless the company is paying a fortune in extra costs, carpet cleaners are awful for people who are scent reactive. Either way, a physical exam can easily detect any sinus and/or allergy problem. Your dog may follow the ill dog around more than usual and may spend a lot of time . I worked somewhere that used the lime one for the bathrooms and it did beautifully without giving me headaches, so I started buying them for home. Specifically that yogurt, not just any frozen yogurt. I agree to use Alisons wording and put this back in her court. Its tough to describe. Every. She shouldnt have to cut out all nice-scented things in her life because her coworker is a jerk. There were some pretty extreme suggestions about changes that OP could make to try and address it there too my favorite was keeping your clothes in dry-cleaning bags and dressing in the garage! I do wear my perfumes on the weekend still, but I generally wear business casual clothes (which live in my closet) to work and casual clothes (which live in my dresser) on the weekend. I call them vanilla napalm (since every time Ive had a migraine form at work, Ive smelled cloyingly awful (probably fake) sweet vanilla, even if its supposedly a floral scent) So far, my management or OHSA rep has handled the dirty work of getting those removed. Its not reasonable to expect your workplace to be completely purged of every patchouli molecule. Honestly, the answer is probably telecommuting. There can be essential oils, plant derivatives, and masking fragrances in unscented products. Sad. But scented deodorant? Just because she can smell something doesnt mean its bothering her. It reminds me of funerals and old churches. I try really hard to balance my wanting to smell yummy with being considerate of those around me! Thats really interesting. You are going above and beyond for this person, which is very thoughtful and empathetic of you. She is a jerk but she may imagine she smells patchouili because it is so associated with you. I was going to say this. lol Im inclined to think shes just a jerk. Unfortunately theres no way to pinpoint it unless you literally go sniffing around. Find out if your city is a top "allergy capital.". Its bullying. Your coworkers shoot you irritated looks as you clear your throat (again). Bravo. The vinegar smell has always washed for me, but I know some people who add 1-2 drops of EO to add some lavender/peppermint scent to it, but that opens the door to other complaints anyways. I also think that the manager needs to be a little more forceful with the coworker about the comments- tell the coworker to knock it off. The only thing I can think of is that it was not washed as much as the other clothed. Has your boyfriend gone to an ENT? I dont have smell sensitivities, and I have a terrible sense of smell, and febreeze unscented gives me migraines. McCoy is a journalism graduate of Ryerson University. Honestly, the race to defer to the coworker in comments baffles me. Although her coworker would probably be like your smock smells bad., I, for one, welcome my new sterilization chamber overlords. Agreed. They are everywhere and they are stronger and longer lasting. Instead, shes making an ass of herself. If I really need to do laundry and my parents invite me over for an evening, I may take some over then, but just enough to tide me over until I have time to do laundry in my own building. There might be something in the building that nobody is aware of. A Critical Coworker - 5 Reasons Why Here are 5 reasons why your coworker is so critical of you: They Don't Like You Too Controlling Genuine Advice Habit Too Smart In this section we will explain why your fellow worker has that irritating habit of always poking their nose into your work and pointing out something they don't like! She had her unit say it was me. Ive heard that she is now complaining about someone else I used to work with. Well, OP seems to think they have entirely addressed the problem by stopping wearing scents and washing in unscented detergent, and so when they try to assess the situation they are incorrectly starting from a belief that they dont/cant actually smell. I really can't take it anymore. All rights reserved. Its actually one of the reasons I left. Actually, I think the OP has taken more measures than are actually reasonable and that the OP has really bent over backwards on this. Every action is . Honestly, if my workplace required that I stop using scents on my body, I would have a big problem with it. I wasnt rude or mean, just cold and matter-of-fact about the whole thing. All the advice about deep cleaning all bedding and coats and switching detergents and shampoos and the like is baffling. My sister worked a local deli/crab cake place in high school and smelled of Old Bay to the point that shed walk in the door and strip off her shoes and clothes and not take them to her room. Agreed. She needs a personal air filter, and to leave the OP alone. I think this is an important point too. Im a grown-up, so I wouldnt do that, but oh, Lord, would I want to. To be fair, the only thing Ive actually changed since she complained is not wearing the perfume. If the colleague continues, especially in a loud, unrestrained manner, consider making a complaint to your manager or human resources department. I hate it having hose nose because of miso I fully understand others hating sniffling but hose nose leaves me no choice. Lots of white person wearing patchouli-ish smells in my city. And I find even mens deodorants to be strong enough that I can smell it when they walk by. It looks like you just have someone who just doesnt like your scent. :). My office got new carpet and my other pregnant co-worker and I had to work from home for a week because we couldnt deal with the smell. If your coworker has Aspergers or some kind of sensory processing disorder, they could go through a doctor to have HR find them accommodations away from other people. But Im not going to ask another person to never drink that tea again. The only scent mnemonics that lemon ever hits for me are dish soap and hard candies! Its just her dryer sheets, but it lingers for several months. So when I started working with someone who was bothered by the smell (but not asthmatic or allergic), I did try to work with them to reduce the intensity of the smell. After everything LW has gone through, she has more than complied. It can be super effective for getting odors out, although certain perfumes and oil-based scents get so embedded in clothes that they may not come out at all :(. I don't have an obstruction, so I am not really sniffing up snot or mucus. I once had to use a scented detergent on my clothes because we were out of unscented. Allergies suck man. Im not allowed to wear headphones at work, but occasionally when the boss is out I sneakily put some on anyway and I can hear her sniffling even with white noise, pink noise, and any kind of music at full blast. ), move her desk, something. If the coworker is just complaining about a scent she doesnt like, I think its sufficient to just treat her comments like the ridiculousness they are. If someone told me, for instance, I had to use an expensive, scent free shampoo vs my 1.09 bottle of Sauve, Id tell them no. As part of following AAMs #3 advice, you should ask your boss to help you figure out if you still have a scent issue. The first day I used it, I almost retched in the shower. Im not, and Ive told her Im not. Oh college lol. And if the coworker isnt asking every single person in the office to eliminate scents of all types, it seems clear to me that this is less of a fragrance issue and more of a my coworker is a jerk issue. Its super easy to become immune to a constant smell. If you feel as though you're about to burp, get up from your desk and walk to the washroom or even an empty part of the office. I still like salmon. Thoughts?. (That obviously wouldnt account for the co-workers still smelling patchouli, but it does mean that unscented isnt, as you say, necessarily a solution.). Hmmmm food for thought. Best of luck OP and as an aside, I LOVE patchouli. LW has done quite a lot to accommodate her coworker, who really does sound like a jerk. Yes, the real problem is clearly the coworker. provided by the hotel. I was definitely guilty off that when Obsession first came out: people used to complain to me and Id just laugh because they just didnt know a good smell when they encountered one. It could also be that OP is very crunchy granola, (think Phoebe from Friends) and her coworker doesnt like those people. Maybe shes conservative, maybe she just finds them annoying, maybe shes worried OP will kidnap her and force her to participate in a drum circle. This will force the co-worker to either repeat his comment in front of everyone with the same level of confrontation, or soften his approach. Advice for HR professionals on handling body odor, bad breath, flatulence, head lice and other problems in the workplace. I don't think he would ever be unfaithful to me and I don't think he is guilty of anything other than getting to know his coworkers and being friendly. Instead, offer practical solutions that can fix the solution for everyone. I get mild to moderate headaches.. it sucks but theyre survivable. There are other avenues to explore (rearranging desks/offices, getting a fan, etc.) If the co-worker was a jerk about it I might get dramatic and fling myself to the floor and wail, what more do you want from me? But thats really better left for fantasy, I suppose. In this particular case, I think the OP has done enough and its time to bring the boss in to either shut down the rudeness or find the coworker a new place to sit. And I was laughed at. Im hoping it doesnt escalate to that point, but Im glad youre out of that situation now! Plus I like the scents I have. putting an end to your runny nose. I agree with Alisons advice all around, I just had one other scent-source to consider do you perhaps use any home air fresheners or diffusers? Does coworker comment on every male in the office that uses cologne or Old Spice deodorant? I have spoken to my manager who has spoken to my coworker several times but . I like the idea to get a blunt friend to do the sniff test, but basically I think the ideas about limiting physical contact are the best way to go at this point; Im a little afraid of sending the OP down a rabbit hole of onerous scent minimization that may not solve the problem. Also, while I typically have (mild) allergic reactions to fragrances, sometimes non-scented products have ingredients that Im sensitive to. . I can understand perfume as that can be very potent and seems to do well to linger in the air. The manager role is responsible for guiding, coaching, onboarding and exceeding targets for a team of up to 8 AMs. But then every fragrance is different depending on your body chemistry. Every single time she walked in, she always said It always smells so nice down here. And then she would call me by the wrong name. So many great suggestions here for how to deal with her from that perspective since she, not the scent, is the problem. Here we go 1. Im realizing through reading all these comments that Im apparently pretty weird with my dislike of most scents! Requesting a coworker to not wear perfume or oils to work is reasonable. Concerns are shared. (Though I do still wonder what it takes to teach kids to chew with their mouths closed). Thats why I like Alisons advice. The brain is, if youll pardon the expression, at the heart of a lot of this. Now I'm drug and sniffle free. Non-allergic rhinitis. Oil tends to penetrate and spread, so yeah, maybe its in the clothing permanently. I used to prefer white wine to red. The main issue I have with this response is that its putting the onus on the LW to handle the issue, and thats just not fair. Shes done more than is reasonable. A physical change of environment for one or both of them should neutralise this co-workers issue. But frankly, you shouldnt be expected to cut something you enjoy out of your life entirely just because it annoys her. 1. Its very abnormal, trust no one, he may e ur broda's friend and may e younger than u, who knows whether he's older than u in spirit or devilish act. Or maybe the scents linger in a vehicle that then gets stuck on you, so to speak, or on an office chair? I now have refused being singled out. But that doesnt seem to be what the OP is dealing with just now, so she may need to change from the reasonable adult playbook to the dealing with a bully playbook. We have placed a box of tissues on her desk, they are unused. 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